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"ScmToolkit MPQ2k Problem: Map Size(ex:1mb)" , Tue 18 Sep 09:47

Help. Once I edited a map with SCM Toolkit, the size of the map changes to double the size or something. How do I fix this? It's getting annoying. Someone please tell me. Thank you.

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"Re(1):ScmToolkit MPQ2k Problem: Map Size(ex:1" , Wed 19 Sep 05:26

It seems that the compression was ommited then. Simply extract all the files from the map and then reinsert them again using MPQ2K should reduce the size again.

Darn, this only one post per minute kinda bugs me. But if I go back to hit post again a minute later, then all the text is gone, so I have to retype everything again. That bugs me even more :-(

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"I don't understand you..." , Wed 19 Sep 16:11

Sorry about you having to type again. But, anyways, I don't understand the extracting businesses you told me. Can anyone/you tell me another way or explain it to me specificly like I am very very new to this. Thank you.... a lot.

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"Re(1):I don't understand you..." , Thu 20 Sep 04:56

Go to http://www.campaigncreations.com/starcraft/mpq2k / to get MPQ2K. Read the helpfile on that page on how to extract and reinsert help files. Simply extract all the files from your map and then insert them in a new archive, or back into your map should help.

If you read the helpfile, but still don't understand how to work with MPQ2K, then reply here.

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"STILL don't understand..." , Thu 20 Sep 17:00

I don't get it even though I have the document to teach me how to extract and stuff. It told me how to set it in the Dos program to do commands so extracting is possible. But I still don't get it, especially the <command> to opening MPQ2K. Can you teach me how, and how to extract my map and re-extract it? Here are some info:
(Thanks a lot)

-MPQ2K program located at: "C:\Program Files\Starcraft\MPQ Viewer\MPQ2K.exe"
-Map file located at: "C:\Program Files\Starcraft\maps\download\Made by Weng\Infestation of Leprechauns.scx"

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"Re(1):STILL don't understand..." , Fri 21 Sep 06:30

Choose an existing directory in your %path% or define a new one. If you don't know what I mean with that, just use C:\Windows\Command .

Put Mpq2k.exe, StarEdit.exe, Storm.dll and Lmpqapi.dll in that directory.

Start a Dosprompt, then type:
C:
CD\PROGRA~1\STARCR~1\MAPS\DOWNLOAD\MADEBY~1
MPQ2K x INFEST~1.SCX STAREDIT\SECNARIO.CHK
MPQ2K a INFEST~1.SCX STAREDIT\SECNARIO.CHK
EXIT

(make sure not to capitalize the x and the a behind MPQ2K). Thereby you have extracted and reinserted the .chk file. Did the size reduce now?

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"Re(2):STILL don't understand..." , Fri 21 Sep 17:22

The first 2 lines works, but the third one(the add command) does not work. It says ,"Error: File Staredit\Scenario.chk does not exist."(except for the first 2 lines you told me). Please help me again. I hope this isn't a bother to you. Thanks a lot, really.

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"Re(3):STILL don't understand..." , Tue 25 Sep 03:30

Huh? Weird. It oughta work. If you browse there using explorer, can you find the Scenario.chk file?

And if you try the following instead:?

MPQ2K e INFEST~1.SCX STAREDIT\SCENARIO.CHK
MPQ2K a INFEST~1.SCX SCENARIO.CHK STAREDIT\SCENARIO.CHK

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"Re(4):STILL don't understand..." , Tue 25 Sep 20:32

It worked, but it makes the size of the map bigger instead. Your way does not work. Maybe a coinsidence, eh? This way works:

MPQ2K e INFEST~1.SCX STAREDIT\SCENARIO.CHK
MPQ2K a INFEST~1.SCX SCENARIO.CHK

If you still wanna help me regardless to my problem, thanks a lot( and I mean a lot). If you screwed up and don't know how this can be fixed. It's okay, I understand.

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"Re(5):STILL don't understand..." , Wed 26 Sep 04:49

Well, of course it got bigger now. Because now you have the following two files in your map:

Scenario.chk
Staredit\Scenario.chk

Two files are larger than one. I wonder who it can't import with directories in your case. Something else you might want to try is by loading the Sceario.chk file directly within StarEdit.

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"Re(6):STILL don't understand..." , Thu 27 Sep 12:27:

Thanks, it works. Wonder how I edit it without the directory thing? Easy--I had the map in the directory of the MPQ2K, I also went to http://www.campaigncreations.com/starcraft/mpq2k / , and downloaded their "Command Prompt Here" program. After that is done, I installed it, right click the folder where the MPQ2K is in, and click "Command Prompt Here".

This is what I inputted for this whole thing to work:
MPQ2K e INFEST~1.SCX STAREDIT\SCENARIO.CHK
MPQ2K a INFEST~2.SCX SCENARIO.CHK
EXIT

I then rename and convert Scenario.CHK to Infestation of Leprechauns.SCX, and open it with Staredit. Finally, I made at least 1 change(and deleted it) and then saved the map. It works perfectly, even though it changes the player colors back and stuff.

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[this message was edited by wengfung on Thu 27 Sep 12:32]

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"Re(7):STILL don't understand..." , Fri 28 Sep 03:09

Yeah, that works perfectly, but it is of no use.

Because, you see, the file is saved in the .scm/scx as
STAREDIT\SCENARIO.CHK
which is the file you extract. Then you reinsert the file as
SCENARIO.CHK
So now you have two versions in your map, one with and one without directory. The version Staredit uses is
STAREDIT\SCENARIO.CHK
So the file you imported is doing nothing besices increasing the filesize.

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"Re(8):STILL don't understand..." , Fri 28 Sep 15:54

Umm, the size actually decrease all the way after I open that big file in StarEdit, edit it at least, and save.

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"Re(9):STILL don't understand..." , Mon 1 Oct 04:24

Well, that's nice. Unfortunately however, some of the changes you made using SCMToolKit have been removed as well, such as team colors. As long as you do not mind, just leave it like this. If you do mind, then I guess you could give it another try.

What you could try is saving it as something simple like C:\Maps\Mymap.scx (No more than 8 letters in a name and no spaces or other weird character) and then try to extract and reinsert the file as well. I think MPQ2K shouldn't matter, but who knows.

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"Re(10):STILL don't understand..." , Mon 1 Oct 18:47

Thanks, I might try again in the future. Remember, I got your AIM and ICQ info, so I might be able to contact you again. A lot of thanks to you, I mean a lot.

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"Re(2):Re(10):STILL don't understand..." , Wed 10 Oct 05:28

Spaces in your directoryname mess things up. Try copying the map to a different folder that doesn't have any spaces in it with upper dirs that don't have any spaces either. Then try extracting and reinserting the file. Does that work?

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"Re(3):Re(10):STILL don't understand..." , Wed 10 Oct 17:17

Thanks for helping me---a lot. Ironically, it does not work. :(

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"Re(4):Re(10):STILL don't understand..." , Thu 11 Oct 05:54

What filename and what directories did you put it into?

Try something simple like 'C:\Maps\Mymap.scx', does that fail also?

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"Re(5):Re(10):STILL don't understand..." , Thu 11 Oct 19:16

It's C:\Reducing\Infest.scx

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"Re(6):Re(10):STILL don't understand..." , Fri 12 Oct 07:12

And did the following have any success (with command prompt in C:\Reducing\)?

MD STAREDIT
MPQ2K e INFEST.SCX STAREDIT\SCENARIO.CHK
MPQ2K a INFEST.SCX SCENARIO.CHK
EXIT

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"Re(7):Re(10):STILL don't understand..." , Fri 12 Oct 18:13

It doesn't work, it increases it's file space instead. Thanks for trying anyways.

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"Re(8):Re(10):STILL don't understand..." , Mon 15 Oct 08:10

Well, you could give it one last try:

MD STAREDIT
MPQ2K x INFEST.SCX STAREDIT\SCENARIO.CHK

Now use Alt-Tab to get back to windows. Then see if a subdir STAREDIT is created with a SCENARIO.CHK file in it. If not, make the subdir yourself and put the file in. Then get back to the dosprompt and:

MPQ2K a INFEST.SCX STAREDIT\SCENARIO.CHK
EXIT

If that doesn't work, then I'm left clueless.

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"Re(9):Re(10):STILL don't understand..." , Wed 17 Oct 17:10

Bad news dude, it does not work. It makes the size bigger again. But thanks for trying to help me anyways. Wait--let me go back, I mean... Thanks a lot.

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